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Children and Young Persons Act 1933

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Section 103.

FIFTH SCHEDULEE+W Transitory Provisions

1E+WAny Order in Council, order, or regulation made, any certificate given, any deposition taken, and anything done, under any enactment repealed by this Act shall, for the purposes of this Act, be deemed to have been made, given, taken or done, under the corresponding provisions of this Act.

2E+WAny rule, byelaw, warrant or licence under any enactment repealed either by the M1Children and Young Persons Act 1932 (hereinafter referred to as the Act of 1932) or by this Act and re-enacted, with or without modifications, by this Act shall have the like effect, and the like proceedings may be had thereon and in respect thereof, as if it had been made, made and confirmed, or granted, under this Act:

Provided that this paragraph shall not apply to rules made under section fifty-four of the M2Children Act 1908 (hereinafter referred to as the Act of 1908) for the management and discipline of a certified school or to byelaws made under section ninety-one of the M3Education Act 1921, with respect to street trading.

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3Any person who at the commencement of the Act of 1932 is under section twenty of the Act of 1908 being detained in a place of safety may be so detained until he can be brought before a juvenile court under this Act.

4Nothing in this Act or in the Act of 1932 shall render invalid any summons pending at the commencement of that Act for bringing a child or young person before a petty sessional court with a view to his being committed under section twenty-one or under Part IV of the Act of 1908 to the care of a relative or other fit person or with a view to his being sent to a certified school, but the petty sessional court before which the child or young person is brought under the summons, if it is constituted as a juvenile court, shall proceed as if he had been brought before it as being a child or young person in need of care or protection, and if it is not constituted as a juvenile court, shall adjourn the case until it can be so constituted and shall then proceed as aforesaid.

5Where before the commencement of the Act of 1932 an order has been made under the Act of 1908 or under section forty-five of the Education Act 1921, committing a child or young person to the care of a relative or other fit person, this Act shall have effect in relation to the child or young person as if the order were an order made under this Act:

Provided that notwithstanding anything in this Act the order shall not have effect for any longer period than the period for which it would have had effect if neither this Act nor the Act of 1932 had passed.

6This Act shall apply in relation to a school which at the commencement of the Act of 1932 was a certified reformatory school or a certified industrial school as if the certificate for the school were a certificate of approval issued under this Act.

7The Secretary of State may, if he thinks fit, approve for the purposes of this Act any school which on the twelfth day of July nineteen hundred and thirty-two was a certified day industrial school, and if he so approves any such school the provisions of this Act shall apply in relation to that school and to children previously sent or thereafter to be sent thereto, subject to such adaptations, modifications and exceptions as he may from time to time by order direct.

8Where a child or young person had at the commencement of the Act of 1932 been ordered to be sent to a certified school but has not reached his school, the like proceedings may be had and the like things done for the purpose of securing that he is sent to a school, and with respect to his custody in the meantime, as might have been had or done if neither this Act nor the Act of 1932 had passed.

9Subject to the provisions of this Schedule, this Act shall apply in relation to persons who at or after the commencement of the Act of 1932 are lawfully detained in, or out on licence or under supervision from, or are absentees from, a certified school, as if they were persons detained in, or out on licence, or under supervision from, or absentees from, an approved school under the provisions of this Act:

Provided that the periods for which such persons are liable to be detained in approved schools and to remain under the supervision of the managers shall (except so far as increased by virtue of the provisions of this Act relating to persons guilty of misconduct in schools or of escaping running away or refusing to return when recalled) be such as if neither this Act nor the Act of 1932 had passed.

10Where a child or young person has before the commencement of the Act of 1932 been ordered to be sent to a certified school, it shall be the duty of the local authority, if any, who under the Act of 1908 were liable to provide for his reception and maintenance in the school to make such contributions in respect of him as would by this Act be required to be made if he had been sent to the School under an approved school order and they were the local authority named in that order as being the authority within whose district he was resident: and if in any such case as aforesaid—

(a)it had not been determined at the commencement of the Act of 1932 who are the authority who are responsible as aforesaid; or

(b)proceedings might but for the passing of this Act and the Act of 1932 have been had for varying a determination as to that question,

the like proceedings may be had for determining the question and for varying any determination in respect thereof as might have been had if neither this Act nor the Act of 1932 had passed.

11Where a child or young person has before the commencement of the Act of 1932 been ordered to be sent to a certified school at the instance of a poor law authority or of the managers of a district poor law school, the poor law authority concerned shall be under the like obligation to make contributions to the expenses of the managers of the school as they would be under if he had been sent to the school by virtue of an approved school order made on their application in their capacity as a poor law authority.

12Where before the commencement of the Act of 1932 a child or young person has been committed to the care of a relative or other fit person or has been ordered to be sent to a certified school and an order is in force at the commencement of the said Act requiring any person liable to maintain him to contribute to his maintenance, or requiring the whole or any part of any payment under an affiliation order to be paid to a person named in the order, this Act shall apply in relation to the order as if it had been made under this Act, and where the order provides for the making of payments to the chief inspector of reformatory and industrial schools it shall, by virtue of this Act and without more, be deemed to provide that the payments shall be made to the council of the county or county borough within which the person liable to make the payments is from time to time resident.

13Where in pursuance of section fifty-three of the Act of 1908 a child has been boarded out by the managers of a certified school, this Act shall apply in relation to that child—

(a)if the managers are a local authority, as if he had been committed under this Act to their care and had been boarded out by them under this Act;

(b)if the managers are not a local authority, as if he were out on licence from the school.

14Where before the commencement of the Act of 1932 a child or young person has entered into a recognisance under the proviso to subsection (4) of section fifty-eight of the Act of 1908 or under section sixty of that Act, the provisions of section sixty-six of this Act shall apply as if such an order as is mentioned in that section had been made placing him under the supervision of a probation officer, and the recognisance shall cease to have effect.

15The repeal by the Act of 1932 of the provisions of the Act of 1908 relating to places of detention shall not render illegal the custody of a child or young person in such a place unless and until a remand home for the area in question has been provided in substitution therefor, and when such a home has been provided, the children or young persons in custody in the place of detention shall be transferred to and kept in custody in the home.

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